PR Interview with Jason Mollica
Episode 008 of this Q&A project features Jason Mollica, President, JRM Comm, Inc.
He answers to Jay or Jas, and while he admitted to me during this process that he is a romantic comedy softie, I chose not to reveal that…oops. Seriously, he is a good guy with a good sense of humor, smart and it has been a real pleasure getting to know him a bit over the last couple of years. If you don’t know him, take the next few minutes to see what you are missing.
Jas, you’ve have taken a very interesting career path, producer, director of comms at a university, PA announcer, agency PR, blogger and now president of your own comms agency. If you were talking to someone looking to get into PR / Comms, would you suggest they try to follow a similar path? Why or why not?
I would suggest they follow their own path. I don’t think anyone’s path to career success is the same. Sure, you can find inspiration from someone’s steps, but not one direction is similar. If you told me when I first started out in television that I’d be in PR and running my own business, I would have raised an eyebrow and kept going. It wasn’t even on my radar. Now, I can’t dream of doing anything else. And that is what students or those that want to make a change need to keep in mind. Your next challenge may not be in your view right now.
The best piece of advice I received was “Do it because you want to, not because you have to.” I want to do what I’m doing now. When I work because I have to, I’m going to find something more challenging.
What do all of your professional positions have in common?
They all required hard work, focus and passion. I’ve lost the passion for some jobs along the way, but never the hard work and focus.
The one position that I have to ask more about is the PA gig for the (former New York Mets Triple A affiliate, now Toronto Blue Jays), the Buffalo Bisons. How did you get into this?
I worked as the PA announcer for Niagara University’s men’s hockey team. A colleague heard that the Bisons were looking for a PA announcer, so I applied. I tried out a few weeks before the season began and was lucky to get the gig. I get paid to watch baseball. As a long time fan of the game, it doesn’t get any better than that.
Can you provide some insight into the behind the scenes part of this job? How much prep goes into this position?
I normally get to the ballpark an hour or so before gametime. I read the lineups, check the pronunciations and see if there is anything to be done pre-game.
What you hear (batter walk-ups, announcements, in-game promotions) is just a small part of the picture. Behind the scenes, it can get a little crazy. The greatest part though is working with an enthusiastic, fun team of people. They all love what they do.
We had the Triple A All-Star Game last season at Coca-Cola Field. It could get a little stressful because we were in the national spotlight on MLB Network. The Home Run Derby was another story, because I was the on-field host. It ended up being one of the greatest career experiences because of the event. But took a good amount of preparation, not just for me, but all those involved.
What would surprise people about being a PA announcer for a AAA team?
The fans are apt to call you on a screw up. I read a name wrong one time and I heard a fan below me say, “You read it wrong, man.” I actually leaned out the window and said, “Sorry about that!” The fan was surprised that I was that close!
If you could do anything (professionally) outside of PR / Communications, what would you choose and why?
I’d love to be an astronaut. Growing up, I wanted to fly on the Space Shuttle. I’ve always had this affinity for space exploration. So, if NASA is reading this, when you decide to head back to the moon or Mars, I’m in!
How did you get into public relations?
My wife and I decided to move to where she is from (a suburb of Buffalo, N.Y.) about six months after we were married. I wanted a change of lifestyle from the TV/radio hours. So, I started applying for PR jobs. Niagara University was looking for an assistant director of communications and PR and I was lucky to get the job. It took some adjustment, but looking back, it was a good job to get.
If you could change one thing about the PR industry, what would it be?
That is honestly a tough question. I think it would be for more of us to adapt much quicker to the changing times. We need to think ahead for clients, why not for our own industry?
How has PR/Comms industry changed in the last 5 years?
Two words: Social Media. Personally, if it wasn’t for social media, I wouldn’t be where I am today (and would not have met Paul Roberts, either!). OFFICIAL EDITOR’S NOTE: haha
What does PR/Comms industry look like in 5 years?
We’re going to see social media evolve. Facebook and Twitter will still be the standard bearers. But there is going to come a day, very shortly, where we will have one platform integrate all the good things of Facebook and Twitter, as well as Skype, for one true social experience. Imagine the snark then!
Did you pay much attention to the recent attempt by PRSA to redefine public relations? If so, what was your thought about the process, result and industry-wide discussion?
I absolutely paid attention. I even did a blog on it . I appreciated PRSA’s hard work in trying to get an all-encompassing definition. Was the result successful? I don’t know. I certainly haven’t heard a colleague refer to the “definition.” I thought the industry-wide discussion was great. I didn’t appreciate some of the really rough comments towards PRSA. It takes guts to try and take a stand. Or, in this case, define a practice. Discussion or debate is healthy.
What social media platform do you use (most) professionally?
Twitter is my go-to platform. It’s how I build my reputation and how I continue to build and get business. And is it different from what you use for personal? I blend by Facebook and Twitter use for personal and social. However, lately, I’ve ramped back on my use of Twitter for personal use.
Do you make any attempt to differentiate you personal from your professional social media persona? If so, how?
When I first launched my business, I used my personal Facebook and Twitter pages. Now, I have FB and Twitter for JRM Comm. Why? Because I wanted an outlet where clients, friends, and potential clients could go for information. It’s actually worked out well.
The best PR / Communications people you’ve ever worked with share what quality?
Honesty and sincerity. I’ve been lucky to work with and meet so many great people. They all are honest and sincere. People like Deirdre Breakenridge, Justin Goldsborough, and Valerie Simon. Each have the qualities I’d like future pros to emulate.
What advice would you give young professionals just starting out in this industry?
Never, ever let someone tell you that you can’t. But, never let someone sell you a job that isn’t right for you. Believe in YOU and your skills. And be honest with yourself.
Immediate reaction to the follow (in one or two words preferably):
Twitter: Game changer
Facebook: Standard bearer
Google+: Misunderstood
Klout: Overrated
Corporate blogs: Stiff
LinkedIn: Severely underrated
Social media: No longer a “fad.”
Public relations: adapting
Still need more of Jason? Check out:
Twitter: @JasMollica
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmollica
Blog: http://oneguysjourney.wordpress.com/
Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/jasmollica/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JRMComms
If you like this interview, please also check out recent interviews with Jeff Beauregard, Jules Zunich, Frank Strong, Krista Giuffi, Jeff Domansky and Lisa Zone.
PR Interview with Lisa Zone
The latest edition, episode 005 to this Q&A project is Lisa Zone (or Zone to her friends) senior vice president, head of customer communications practice group. With more than 15 years’ agency experience managing B2B and B2C marketing communications programs for a variety of clients, ranging from start-ups to nonprofit organizations to Fortune 500 companies, Lisa is also former president of American Advertising Federation – Cleveland; active with many community organizations and nonprofit Boards.
Lisa, you are a senior VP at Dix & Eaton an agency that provides integrated marketing and PR services. While most readers of this blog know what that means, how do you explain your job to friends and family?
My “explain it to your mom” speech is basically, “It’s my job to help my clients get in front of their customers.” That might mean helping them at a trade show, getting them in the newspaper or a magazine or talking with customers on social media. The tools might change, but the ultimate goal is always the same – to increase and enhance engagement with the people who buy my clients’ products.
If you could do anything outside of PR / Communications, what would you choose and why?
I think I’d enjoy being a hairstylist or makeup artist. The projects I tend to enjoy most are the ones that include a lot of creativity, and both of those fields are all about creativity – and creative people. Plus, I’m a bit of a girly girl.
How did you get into this industry?
Growing up, I always wanted to be a newscaster – until I did an internship at a TV station the summer between sophomore and junior years and realized I didn’t. I did, however, enjoy the work I did at the station within the public affairs department, which was the closest thing to a PR department at the station. The following summer, I did an internship at a local advertising and PR agency after hearing one of the agency partners speak to my journalism class. I loved that internship experience so much that I stayed on part-time during my senior year in college. They hired me upon graduation, and the rest is history. I was recruited to my current job by someone I’d worked with at that agency internship.
Your resume / LinkedIn profile is impressive and includes all the core PR, marketing, event categories one would expect, but I’ll be honest, I’m not sure what ‘Brand Culture Integration’ is, can you explain?
Brand Culture Integration is part of Dix & Eaton’s branding process that identifies and engages a team of internal brand ambassadors (a Brand Engagement Team) to participate in the branding process along the way. Our experience suggests that this approach – particularly in companies with inclusive corporate cultures – generally yields a better end product and builds buy-in along the way from key internal stakeholders.
If you could change one thing about the PR industry, what would it be?
In my opinion, the best PR practitioners are the ones who have insights into the complex business challenges facing an organization – and who have a seat at the table to help solve those issues. PR should not be an afterthought. I’d love to see the PR function elevated to a strategic function of an organization, as much as operations, legal, etc.
How has the Marketing / PR / Comms industry changed in the last 5 years?
Certainly, social media has drastically changed the way companies communicate with (not at) their constituents – customers, employees, investors, community, partners/suppliers, etc. And it’s not just staying on top of emerging and popular social media platforms that’s important – it’s understanding how content is developed and delivered in an ever-evolving communications landscape.
What does it look like in 5 years?
Who knows? I don’t think any of us could have predicted the impact social media would have on the way companies communicate today five years ago. In my estimation, it’s less important to try to guess where communications is going and instead focus on really paying attention to how people are communicating with each other – then adjust to reach them where they are with content they seek.
What social media platform do you use (most) professionally? And is it different from what you use for personal?
Twitter is hands-down my go-to resource for all things professional, as I find I can learn from other practitioners, industry resources and media outlets all in one place. I find myself using Facebook more for personal use, mostly because that’s where a lot of my personal connections are. As I said earlier, it’s all about paying attention to how people are communicating with each other – and where. For me, that means Twitter for professional development and insights and Facebook for personal connections. But I must admit – Instagram is fast becoming a favorite platform for me. I love the way a photo can capture a story, even with no caption. Visuals are very powerful communications tools.
Do you make any attempt to differentiate your personal from your professional social media persona? If so, how?
No. To me, it’s not authentic to maintain one persona for work and one for personal – and social media is all about authenticity, isn’t it? That’s not to say I don’t sometimes filter what I put on my social networks (acknowledging it’s a representation of both my personal and professional self) – but I do use the same language, humor, etc. for work and play.
What advice would you give young professionals just starting out in this industry?
Young professionals are often very eager to prove themselves, which sometimes manifests itself in talking too much or trying to figure everything out without asking for help. There’s no shame in asking for advice or spending more time listening than talking in meetings when you’re just starting out (though I’d caution to not be totally silent in meetings either). I’m more impressed by a young professional who listens, absorbs and shares a really thoughtful observation or question than one who just talks and talks and talks to make sure his/her voice is heard.
What is the best professional advice you ever gave / received?
I always tell college students studying PR or communications to take some basic business classes, even if it’s not required for their major. It’s the one thing I wish I would have been exposed to more in college, as I have had to self-teach myself to understand things like financial statements and earnings announcements. If PR is going to have a seat at the executive table, it’s critical for practitioners to really understand how a business runs.
Have you ever deleted a Tweet / post? If so, why?
Absolutely. Most often, I delete when I catch a grammar or spelling error. There have been those times, however, that my emotions have gotten the best of me and I’ve used Twitter to vent. That’s not productive and doesn’t really accomplish much. I’ve learned to avoid hitting “send” on those tweets for the most part, but there are always a few that slip through – at least, until I delete them.
What is your immediate reaction to the follow:
Twitter: news, connecting
Facebook: overcrowded, personal
Google+: undercrowded
Klout: grain of salt
Corporate blogs: thought leadership
LinkedIn: recruiting, job hunting
Social media: two-way
Marketing: one-way
Public relations: all-ways
Need more of Lisa? Check her out on Twitter at @lzone or on LinkedIn.
See past interviews including with Jeff Beauregard, Krista Giuffi, Jules Zunich and Frank Strong
PR Interview with Krista Giuffi
Anyone that has read this blog or my posts on Twitter probably already knows that I’m a big fan of the blogging of Krista Giuffi – AKA PR in Pink, so it should be no surprise that I’ve used this Q&A project to interview Krista for episode 003.
Krista Giuffi is associate director, alumni relations & communications at Temple University School of Medicine and blogger at prinpink.wordpress.com.
On a side-note, she admits that she voted for Jesse Ventura for Minnesota governor in 1998, but says it is “not because he was a professional wrestler. No, her reason was two-fold: a.) He was in my favorite X-Files episode b.) I didn’t think he would actually win!”
Krista, if you could do anything (professionally) outside of PR / Communications, what would you choose and why?
If I had to throw it all away and not do anything related to PR or communications, then I would choose to be a marine biologist and study sharks. That was one of my first “little girl career dreams,” but my lack of interest in math kind of deterred me from pursuing it as a career. Plus, once I got my first word processor and started writing at age 14, it as all communications from there….
In your LinkedIn bio, you lead with: “I believe in the power of good, honest communications.” What made you decide that it was important to highlight ‘honest communications’ is there some dishonest communications you are trying to distance yourself from?
That line was from my resume at the time I set up my LinkedIn profile. It stemmed from when I was trying to work in PR and the stereotype is that if you work in PR, then you are a “spin doctor” or a “hack.” I was trying (and still try) to convey that any work I do in communications– be it PR, corporate stuff, or otherwise– is based on honesty. If I believe in my client, my product, my company, etc., then it’s easy. I feel that’s what a potential employer (because that’s who is going to be reading that part of my profile closely) should know about me, and that I am not a BS-er and never will BS nor shill BS for anyone or anything.
You recently made the change from corporate communications to alumni relations. How are these two career paths the same / different?
Oh, there’s a lot the two have in common. I’ve been meaning to pick up my blogging and gear it toward the alumni relations/advancement communications field. One area I see a lot of carry-over is the way in which alumni relations is based on relationship building with the alumni. You have to take your time to get to know them as individuals; know their interests; understand if they are philanthropic; find a way to connect them back with the institution. It’s very much like media relations was with reporters back when I worked in PR. You had to get to know the reporter’s beat; know what they liked to cover; provide them with useful content and build a relationship before you pitch.
Until your recent blogging vacation, you regularly wrote a popular PR / Communications blog. What did you get out of that (hopefully soon-to-be-revived) project?
Yes, I do hope to revive the blogging effort! It was immensely rewarding for me when I worked in PR because I got to know people (much like you, Paul) who shared the same interests in the field and from whom I could learn a lot. It was challenging to write every week, but I made the effort and planned ahead, so it really is like having a second job. It was also cathartic to see my throughts expressed for the world to see, because I could hear my tone and feel my emotions in them. It’s really something I hadn’t counted on but appreciate having gone through the blogging exercise.
How did you originally get into public relations / corporate communications?
I like to say I was forced into PR– I actually got a job at a Spanish-language newspaper in Philadelphia thinking the publisher wanted to hire me to be a reporter. He gave me a few assignments but started asking me to help him write press releases in English and pitch ideas to the local media about the newspaper-sponsored activities. At the time (circa 2004-2005) the Spanish media was booming but it soon imploded and I realized it was easier to get a job in PR than in the print newspaper industry. Plus, as soon as I found my groove in PR/communications, namely healthcare or medicine, it was an easy fit for me. And now, I find that I like working in alumni relations for medical schools because it has the same connection to healthcare that I want to follow in every future job or career path I choose.
If you could change one thing about the PR / Comms industry, what would it be?
That’s a tricky question– I don’t know how best to articulate it, but sometimes I think people working in PR get so wrapped up in their little bubble of a world that they forget that the industry can come off sounding like it’s filled with a bunch of d-bags. For example, the whole hub-bub about PRSA wanting to define “public relations” started this whole social media discussion and back and forth between PR professionals (so much so that people were threatening to revoke their PRSA membership). When I explained the situation to my husband, a complete layperson, he asked me, “what is the big deal? Even if you define it, I still couldn’t tell other people what it is you do for a job.” See, all that work for a definition and it still only served those of us in the industry and did nothing to help our image with the outside world.
In what ways do you think social media has changed the larger communications industry?
I think it’s caused the communications industry to listen to it’s customer base more, whether they like to or not. At the same time, I think those who are social media savvy enough know how to work it for the better of their clients or companies. When it all started, communications pro’s were like, “oh, you can’t control the message on social media.” But now, I’m seeing sponsored tweets, social media ambassadors, and suspecting a lot of fabrication on social media that it leads me to believe that, given the right circumstances, you can control the message. You just have to be smart enough to know how to do it.
Do you make any attempt to differentiate you personal from your professional social media persona? If so, how?
Not really– my social media persona pretty much is my professional persona. I think both LinkedIn and Twitter are my professional face, but even with those, I don’t share much personal stuff because it’s not the appropriate forum for it. My Facebook account is private to only friends and family, but even there, I’m careful about what I post because people still post such trivial stuff. I try to treat social media like I do real life– keep it interesting, share something of substance, try to cut down on the self-promotion, and keep it real.
The best PR / Communications people you’ve ever worked with share what quality?
I don’t know if I could pinpoint one particular quality, but some of the best PR/Communications people I’ve worked for had integrity, honesty and passion for what they did.
What advice would you give young professionals just starting out in this industry?
Try to get a job with as much flexibility to try different things– be it writing, media relations, event management, client service, etc. Even the lowest job on the ladder can give you a lot of experience to get you to the next level. And it’s been my experience that if you reach a glass ceiling and there is no more upward mobility in your current workplace, it’s always worth it to get out and move up elsewhere.
What is the best professional advice you ever gave / received?
As much as I hated hearing my boss at the time say it, I realize this is my mantra when it comes to confronting a problem. My boss at that time would always tell me, “Don’t come to me with problems; come to me with solutions.” When you’re working with a manager and want to show some initiative, it’s helpful to not only bring a problem/issue to their attention, but to also present some solutions to demonstrate that you have the ability to overcome them.
What is your Immediate reaction to the following?:
Twitter: Fun for trolling
Facebook: Getting tired
Google+: Not interested
Klout: Meh
Corporate blogs: Corporate speak
LinkedIn: Online resume
Social media: Dot.com bubble?
Public relations: Still relevant
Need more of Krista? Check her out on Twitter: @PR_in_Pink, her Spin Sucks #FF profile or PR in Pink.
PR Interview with Jules Zunich
One of the selfish reasons for launching this Q&A project was to use this site to better get to know some of the good folks that I’ve met via social media – especially those that live too far away to meet for coffee. One such example is today’s feature – episode 002 or Jules to her friends.
Jules Zunich, PR Consultant, President of Z Group PR, blogger, parent, and all around cool person.
Jules, you’ve been running your own PR / Comms consultancy for over a decade, could you talk about your normal day to day looks like?
Part of the reason I work for myself is because I have four children. I fully expected to work my way up the corporate ladder at some huge firm in Los Angeles or New York, but being a mom changed my priorities. I like being able to flex through my day between my corporate self and my mommy self. I miss agency life, but kids don’t stay little forever. So my typical day is totally spastic. I am cooking and checking email, writing and doing laundry, driving and having conference calls. Even with a dedicated office that is totally kid free, I feel comfortable stopping in the middle of the day to print cut-outs for the kindergarten class. I have worked in traditional 9 to 5 office roles, but with those, I had amazing flexibility and support. I have never been chained to a desk. My personality is more suited to corporate life, but my lifestyle is more suited for consulting. I would take a great job offer, because managing a business is hard and I miss my matching 401k, but I always come back to consulting because I get to pick awesome clients and projects and not miss my kids.
You have your own blog, which you know I’ve long been a big fan of, what have you learned about blogging over the last couple of years?
Yes, you have been my biggest fan and I thank you deeply for that. It really means so much to me. I was terrified when I started my blog, but I am over it now. What I have learned is that everything I tell my clients about blogging is true: It is a pain, a labor of love, and requires a commitment to writing that most non-marketing managers lack. It can be deeply rewarding, but rarely in financial terms. As a writer and communications professional, I find the burden of managing a blog to be almost too much for me. As you have noticed, I have taken long breaks.I often think of stopping and taking it down because I know that I am not doing it right. I am exceptionally critical and I knew it should and could be so much more. I am glad that I forced myself to manage a blog so that I can really be authentic when guiding clients. Right now the advice that I am sharing is this: If you do not have an hour a day to blog, then you will not get the results that you want. If an executive sniffs at that, then I know blogging is not for them. And I do not recommend hiring it out. Yes, have a great web person who can help you with the technical stuff (yes, I have stayed up all night trying to get a widget to work) but the blogs that are great are steeped in authenticity. And anyone who lets the interns run the blog should be tarred and feathered.
What tips do you have for individuals or companies starting a blog?
After blocking access to the interns, ask yourself and your team why you want to start one and have a really, really good reason. If you do not have people clamoring for your thoughts – emailing you, calling your or finding you via social media on a daily basis – then maybe you do not need a blog and your marketing efforts could be better applied in other areas. I think people over simplify their marketing these days and are completely lost in the noise and have no idea why. The splatter effect is good for art, not business. A blog that basically says, “Me Too,” is not really going to market your products and services very well. I have had a lot of success on my blog, but would not say that it has been successful at marketing my services. Readers and paying clients are two different things.
If you could do anything outside of PR / Communications, what would you choose and why?
I have always loved to dance and I taught fitness classes when I was younger. When I see anyone dancing or even hear music, my heart stirs and I long to be in a dance studio again. If I could do it all over again, I would have been less practical and danced my heart out before I looked for a real job. Also, I am really good at giving advice. I come from a family of therapists and medical professionals, plus I am a little bossy. I would be a great therapist or life coach.
How did you get into public relations?
I was in school in California and an instructor recommended me for a paid internship at Jane Ayer Public Relations. Until that point, I had wanted to work in advertising, but after about two seconds in Jane’s office, I knew that PR was for me. I am thankful for her every day. I was actually working at a small community newspaper at the time too, so I marched into the Publishers office and laid out a new position for myself. He supported me and I started working in community relations. I like to learn by watching others, but I can make things happen for myself when needed. I had really great work experience early on.
If you could change one thing about the PR industry, what would it be?
I would make it harder to enter the field. Truck drivers have to be licensed, why shouldn’t we? Of course, the old people like me would be grandfathered in – I hate taking tests. I think that PR people had it easy in the previous decade and now we have to prove ourselves again. Dot com PR was so easy. We need to be more focused on business outcomes. Trust is a huge issue and I have seen some craziness in the profession that makes me want to run screaming. I take all of that with a grain of salt though, because I know that the vast majority of practitioners are champions of the profession. The one thing I would campaign for is strict limitations in how interns are utilized and there is some political PR and campaigning stuff that is just wrong.
How has PR/Comms industry changed in the last 5 years?
The Wizard of Oz approach is gone. You can no longer do your magic behind the curtain and then voila! news coverage. The past 5 years has brought transparency at all levels, which is good. I think the past 5 years has changed professionals, creating a chasm between the tech savvy and the not tech savvy. And by tech savvy I mean digital and social media savvy. I am seeing very senior, experienced people flailing and rookies rockin’ it. It’s an uncomfortable shift in the force, but a necessary one.
What does PR/Comms industry look like in 5 years?
Less shiny. The days of huge agency contracts will be over. I see more in-house PR as companies realize that PR is still as much a science as an art. Companies will want to harness that power. I see the superstars shining a little less brightly and everyone just getting back to business.
Did you pay much attention to the recent attempt by PRSA to redefine public relations?
Yes and no. I like structure and I like the association in general. I followed the news, but kept my mouth shut. Which is not easy. But honestly, how bad is that our PR association had to redefine our role in business. If we can’t brand ourselves…
I agree with the definitions, but the whole process highlighted the profession in a less than flattering light, I feel. I am not big on airing dirty linens. I would have liked to have seen a little less of the process publicized.
What social media platform do you use (most) professionally? And is it different from what you use for personal?
Funny. I just told someone that following me on Twitter and Facebook is like following twins with distinct personalities. For me Twitter is 99% professional and Facebook is 99% personal. My Twitter feed is full of PR professionals and my Facebook friends are people I went to high school with. There is rarely overlap. I have a Facebook page, which lingers somewhere in the middle due to the people who Like it, but the content is professional. LinkedIn gets the least of my attention and is totally professional.
Do you make any attempt to differentiate you personal from your professional social media persona? If so, how?
Yes, but I rarely need to. I am always me and I tend to be rather formal so everything is professional to me. I never post about my relationship status or anything like that. I will do cute kid stuff on Facebook, but mostly I’m all work all the time. Or my style of work all the time, I should say.
The best PR / Communications people you’ve ever worked with share what quality?
Clarity.
What is the the last PR / Comms book you’ve read and would you recommend it?
I just read Dial M for Murdoch and yes, it seems like essential reading for communications professionals.
What are your top three industry related blogs / resources?
I am like an old dog…not interested in many new tricks. I pretty much read business news like NYT Media and Advertising and Forbes Media and Entertainment. My all-time favorite blog is PR Squared, although I tend to avoid gurus. I get all of the industry standards and just pick through them when I have time. And I read what my followers tweet.
What advice would you give young professionals just starting out in this industry?
Don’t be so creative.
What is the best professional advice you ever received?
Don’t take things so personally.
People that know you you would describe you as?
Silly. Competitive. Kind. So many people confess later that they were initially intimidated by me, which I find shocking.
What is your Immediate reaction to the following?:
Twitter: Love
Facebook: Evil nuisance
Google+: Who cares
Klout: Napoleon Complexes
Corporate blogs: Paychecks
LinkedIn: Necessary
Social media: Life
Public relations: Everything
With, it depends or a combination of both not being allowed, the most effective PR program is driven by internal communications leaders or outside agency / consultant?
A strong internal team is the way to go, but it can be a negativity/doldrums graveyard if not tended properly.
In what ways do you think social media has changed public relations?
Increased transparency is my favorite change, just ahead of increased pressure on professionals to bring it.
And is this good for PR agency /consultants?
Yep, great for both.
Need more of Jules? Check her out on Twitter: @JulesZunichPR, LinkedIn, the ZGroup site or read a guest post she contributed to this very site.
PR Interview with Frank Strong
Welcome to episode 001, in a series of Q&A interviews highlighting some of the industry’s most well known, most interesting and most unique characters. Also known as a bunch of nice people that were willing to answer my questions. The first Q&A features a guy I’ve gotten to know over the last couple of years via social media.
Frank Strong, director of public relations at Vocus, father, PR pro, soldier, scuba diver, skydiver in training. Oh yeah, and highly regarded blogger.
Frank, in addition to an accomplished PR career, you’re also an active member of (reserve components of the) U.S. military with 20 years of service. How has your military experience influenced your PR career?
My military service has been beneficial on so many levels — It’s kept me humble. Uncle Sam has a way of stripping you down to your core. It’s the basis of training: you are all the same; you are all equal. Few people progress in their careers only to find themselves in a spot that tests their limits. Everyone has a threshold. I know mine is far beyond what my body tells me it is.
It’s taught me to solve problems. In a social media age, I come to work every morning to five problems I didn’t anticipate the night before. The military has taught me adaptability. Take a middle class kid and stick him in a different culture, amid a war zone, with some high tech equipment and ask him (or her) to do well by the United States — now that’s a challenge.
It’s made me a better leader. The military attracts people from all walks of life; you learn a lot about what motivates people and what does not. It’s allowed me, from a relatively young age, to study people and how to influence them to accomplish a mission. Usually that mission has challenges unique unto itself.
It’s made me a better person. We all work hard. We all put in long hours — especially PR pros. I go home at night and my work isn’t done. You can’t just show up on a weekend and expect military training to go off like clockwork: someone is planning that training, securing resources and generally getting the job done. Guard and Reservist component military members give a lot, they sacrifice a tremendous amount of time often at great personal expense. Reservists do it because they believe in a cause greater than oneself; and if a few don’t stand up and give…then who will? Fewer and fewer people these days serve, or have the patience to understand what it means beyond a headline. They don’t call it the “long war” for nothing. The people that serve are truly great Americans and that’s one of the things that motivates me to get up early every morning.
Frank, you were very outspoken and active during the PRSA’s recent campaign to redefine public relations. Looking back at the process, backlash and end result, what are your current thoughts? Was this a failure, a good try or is it something the industry should revisit?
I was, and remain outspoken, because I care deeply about my profession. I’m critical of PRSA because I see the organization missing the mark, when it has so much potential. Indeed, the PR industry desperately needs and advocate for the good, honest work that many PR pros are doing in the trenches. When I posted my criticism of PRSA, I was deployed overseas, and literally lost sleep to comment on the topic. I had braced for a huge backlash, but what I found was most of my peers agreed with me; even CIPR distanced itself from the campaign and I have yet to meet a peer that thought that campaign changed anything. Look around today. What has changed?
PR boils down to three simple words: third-party validation. If you are in events, media relations, content marketing, or any of the number of things PR pros might do, these three words apply. A definition, the very words that define who we are and what we do, is incredibly important. This is not a trivial matter.
You have a very unique position in the PR industry, you are an internal PR person for a company that is used by PR agencies, so (with it depends / a combination of both not allowed as an option) in your opinion, which is more valuable to a PR program, internal or external PR leadership?
Indeed my job is unique and it’s about as central to PR as one can get. It’s given me a glimpse of some of the most renowned professionals in our business that many don’t see — the good, the bad and the ugly. But I don’t kiss and tell. Internal vs. external? I think the two go hand in hand. The best companies tap the army of personas they have in their employees, and inspire them to inspire others.
How did you get into public relations?
I was doing internal communications for the Army and decided to go back for a master’s degree. I pitched an agency on an internship that led to a job — but at a salary cut of about $15,000. That hurt, financially, but I paid my dues and gained valuable experience for which cannot be bartered otherwise.
What does PR look like in 5 years?
Media relations — or pitching — will be deemphasized. PR pros have been catapulted to the front line; the days of pitching a story and putting forth an expert are ending. We have to be the experts. We have to earn attention with brilliant content. I see this more and more: my words are taken for stories or blog posts where my intent was to put forth another expert.
If you were King of Public Relations for one day, what changes would you make?
A class in finance would be prerequisite to a job in PR. It doesn’t matter if you work for the government, a non-profit or business, every organization lives and breaths by a budget. PR pros need to understand basics, like ROI, and beyond, such as how a cash flow statement links the income statement to a balance sheet. It’s not optional anymore and no amount of creative brilliance can make up that gap.
The best PR / Communications people you’ve ever worked with share what quality?
Enthusiasm for whatever they represent. It doesn’t matter if it’s a product, a service or an idea, you can’t fake the funk for long. If you believe in what you do, you’ll go places; if you do not, it’s better to pack up and go home. As a kid growing up, my father used to say, “do something you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.” I believe those words are true in my heart of hearts. I love the profession of PR; I love what I do.
What is the the last PR / Comms book you’ve read and would you recommend it?
The latest marketing book I’ve read was Marketing in the Round. I’d absolutely recommend it, have done so on Amazon.com and wrote a post about it on my personal blog.
What are your top three industry related blogs / resources?
At risk of plugging my own company’s products, I’d have to say Help A Reporter Out (HARO) tops the list. Vocus acquires it in 2010, but the basic product and premise remains the same. Every PR pro in the industry should be subscribed. It’s free!
Second and third, I’d have to plug two blogs: Gini Dietrich’s SpinSucks and Todd Defren’s PR Squared.
Gini – What’s not to love about her: she’s personable, she’s smart and she’s genuine. I really admire the way she works to respond to people — everyone. Her blog has great content and she has a history of consistency.
Todd – He’s just a smart guy. He doesn’t post nearly as often as he used to, but it seems to me more often than not I find my head going north and south as I’m reading his words.
What advice would you give young professionals just starting out in this industry?
Blog. If you do nothing else, blog. You’ll learn about audience identification. You’ll learn humility. You’ll learn valuable writing skills. You’ll learn about building a community. It’ll keep you on the edge of technology and you’ll learn just how much hard work it takes to build a successful blog.
Who are your top three ‘people I’ve met via social media that I’d like to have dinner / beer with?’
Melyssa St. Michael: I’ve never met her but I’ve spoken to her on social media and email and she just strikes me as scary smart.
Rebecca Ayer: She’s a huge advocate of troops. She reached out to me a few times while overseas — during times she could have not possibly known were rough — and it just touched my heart. The world would be a better place with more people like her.
Adam Vincenzini: Adam just seems to me a smart PR guy and someone that would be fun to have a beer with.
What is your immediate reaction to the follow?
Twitter: Speed
Facebook: Intimacy
Google+: Search
Corporate blogs: Searching for a voice
LinkedIn: Professional
Social media: OMG
Public relations: Third-party validation
Need more of Frank? Check him out on Twitter @Frank_Strong, LinkedIn, Sword and the Script Blog, Google+ and his Spin Sucks FF Profile.